China agrees to meet with the Dalai Lama's representatives

This is a terrible move by China and a sign of the craven capitulation of whoever was responsible for this. I expect the talks to amount to nothing because the basic premises have not changed and the position of the Communisty Party is more likely to have tilted towards hardliners. The Lamaist clique in the end offers nothing but demands everything.

However, the PR element is a double edged sword. While it temporarily allows China to appear more accomodating, the face being primarily being saved is not Chinese but Western. This meeting is simply an excuse by Western governments to justify their own participation in the Olympics in light of a small but shrill and vocal Tibetan separatist agitators to point at and say "Aha! Progress is being made!". The cost to China however is the continued inadvertant legitimization of the Dalai clique and the separatist movement. It only invigours them towards further agitation and gives them the impression that they are in a position to make demands. The opposite approach is required, the separatists should be completly ignored as their power amounts to only as much as China is willing to give, which should be none at all. In otherwords, the beatings should continue until morale improves.

The outcome of such negotiation is probably will be as follows:
1. Dalai Lama is allowed to return but will be retricted to Lhasa only.
2. Lhasa will be zoned as religious centred like vatican in Rome.
3. Dalai Lama is not allowed to serve as political leader in one way or another. If he wants to act as one, the right to strip off his role is subjected to the Chinese law.
4. Monks will be sacked if they don't follow the rule governing their role.
5. No lands will be confiscated from ordinary Tibetans.
6. Dalai Lama will need to confess for his sin in his role during Lhasa riot where innocent peoples are killed.
7. All Tibetans in exile are not allowed back to Tibet. They have the option to take up U.S. citizens. If they are jobless, they can always act as clowns for Richard Gere.

More can be added if necessary.

What's the problem here? The government and the state media have always been pointing on the "Dalai clique", not Dalai Lama himself. Now since he has disconnected himself from the TYC for the first time, and he has agreed to the preconditions the government set for negotiations, nothing is really surprising.

The most important task of CCP is to keep the TYC in control, I hope the negotiations with Dalai Lama would help.

Disciplinary Inspection Teams should be dispatched immediately to review senior CCP leadership in the Tibetan Autonomous Region. It is obvious the CCP senior leaders controlling religion, politics, economics and cultural policy in the Tibetan "autonomous" Region have been overzealous in their exploitation of there Tibetan minority people's and that their management is not consistent with the modern nation that the PRC hopes to become someday.

First step would be to understand what the word Autonomous means in the phrase "Tibetan Autonomous Region" This aint Jiangsu or Shandong.

Dalai Lama is not stupid. I'm sure he will want to see consistent progress from PRC showing real dedication to the Autonmous in "Tibetan Autonomous Region" and that it becomes a reality and not just another partiotic education slogan campaign.

Maybe after 5-10 years of progress he will return to the TAR province of the PRC. If went now he would disappear along wuith the other 4000 tibetans who have disappeared in the last 2 months.

Maybe someday the PRC will credit him with saving their soul at this critical juncture in their history.

The French Senate President, Christian Poncelet, helped Hu Jin Tao out by going to Beijing to kowtow. Now it is Hu Jin Tao's turn. The PRC now must undertake a revised patriotic education campaign to excise the remnants of "Mao Zedong thought" from amongst the citizens of the PRC outside the TAR. PRC citizens understanding of Tibet, the Dalai Lama and the TAR have been distorted since 1950 by "Mao Zedong thought" and the excesses of the cultural revolution, and some confused senior leaders of the CCP in the TAR have been exploiting the situation for personal gain.

The senior cadres in the TAR must be reminded:
Neglecting the People is disgraceful, they have forgotten that Zangzu are Renmin.

blindness and ignorance are disgraceful, false accusations against tibetan cultural have been made out of ignorance;

idleness disgraceful, the CCP policy in the TAR needs to be reformed in order to realize full effectiveness of society, the senior leaders in the TAR have been idle and have disgraced the party.

Using others for profit is disgraceful, eating from Tibet as is if it is your personal rice bowl is a disgrace, using the Tibetans culture to make a profit for yourself is disgraceful.

Seeing personal gain and forgetting justice is disgraceful, this is what led to the Tibetan people's being forced to protest and caused the violence.

Disobeying laws and regulations is disgraceful, the laws respecting all renmin's rights have not been followed in tibet for the tibetan people. Also the laws for autonomy are not being followed in the TAR.

Conceit and lasciviousness are disgraceful,all the Renmin are the same, the Han should not become conceited towards the Zangzu or any others.

The best move for the Chinese government is to announce round and round talks with the DL and keep talking the talk until the holy fellow incarnates or gives in.

At least they are going to talk now its good news. Real Shi’ite leaders in Iraq who got majority support in the Invaded land probably cannot win any fixed election in "Democratic" Iraq, get no chance to talk but assassination attempts from the US army.
Hope to hear more good news and see some sort of reconciliation.

Stan, see you are your usual cheery self.
but you seem to have forgotten.

conspiracy theories are my bag.

Why, Jing, that's word-for-word the same comment you put on my blog. Don't do that again, please.

Cam: On a totally separate note, will you pop me a mail through the "e-mail" form on my blog or, if you can see my e-mail address in your admin screen, to that address? I have something I want to run by you offline and I can't find a mail option on your blog.

Will/Imagethief

Dear Comrades,

I think it is a good move.

If the government can meet KMT leaders why can not meet Dalai Lama. CCP and KMT fought bloody civile war for decades. Millions and millions of family got destroyed and separated for the political ideas ordinary people did not understand. Compare this, the problems with Dalai is just tiny.

We have to face the fact on the ground. Dalai Lama is the only one Tibetan people are worshiping. There were Panchan Lama and Chairman Mao also being worshiped by Tibetans in the 60s , 70s and 80s. But today, Dalai Lama is the only one. The 89 incident and this March were both leaded by monks who requested to be able to see Dalai in Tibet. Many Tibetans each year go to India just to see Dalai Lama not necessarily mean they hate Han . Young Tibetan monks were all educated by our education system just like you and me. But they still worship Dalai Lama. This is the fact has not been changed in the past 50 years and we have to face. Only dialogue can make progress.

When we talk about Dalai lama, we say it was a slavery system under his rule. We also have to know it was the system which selected him when he was a baby. He personally did not create that system. He fleet when he was a teenager. The current Tibet exile and community in India is not a slavery system . So blaming him for the slavery system is not really fair.

We should talk to him even might invite him to attend the Olympic opening ceremony .

It doesn't surprise me that China has opened the door for dialogue.
China has opened its doors before...to capitalism...and is now cash rich and booming...and...(I believe) will eventually form a democracy.

this website is bloody liar and partial racist's basement of propaganda.

Fuck you.

Undoubtedly, Tibet is a part of China, anything need to be discussed?
Juse waste energy to talk the relation betweent Tibet and Chinese gorvnment.
I have been to Tibet, the culture has been preserved well, the native people love their country and nation, the totally admit Tibetan nation is one of 56 nationalities of China, if you convince them keep independent, they throw stone to you, suspectting you were intentionally to split their country.
China has 56 nations and 32 administrative provinces, if any one of them proclaim they want to independent, what if the result? likewise, this incured in US RUSSIA?

The dialogue will go nowhere. It is only a PR stunt. There are at least two reasons.
First, let's assume Dalai Lama distance himself from the extreme organizations like TYC, which is a big if, then any agreement between him and Beijing would not probably be recognized or honored by those seeking full independence.
Second, Beijing will never grant Tibet full autonomy. Given Tibet's strategic position and enormous natural resources, the central government
can not afford to cede control, instead it will soon tap into Tibet's resources to meet the voracious need of natural resources. The full autonomy of Tibet is a fool's dream.

jerry is right. If DL cannot get full support and recognition from Tibetan bodies, all talk would be for nothing other than symbolic. Good PR on both sides though.